The Anarchist Underground

Was Jesus a capitalist or a communist!

Killuminati — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 06:12:51 GMT

Was Jesus a Capitalist or a Communist?

We have to first of all know that one of pillars of Communism is having a GODless State. So, my response to this question will ignore this pillar, since Jesus obviously was not GODless.

To me as a Muslim, Jesus was a Muslim. He was neither a Capitalist nor a Communist, because he believed in One True Undivided GOD Almighty, and he believed in Justice and equality of treatment to all people. Plus he taught his followers how to love and forgive ...

RAC Function Raided; Comrades Arrested

Yaotl Macehualli — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 04:09:39 GMT

Last night the at the Revolutionary Autonomous Communities fundraiser for the Anarchist Bookfair at the food not bombs warehouse on 6th and Santa Fe was raided by the LAPD. They kicked open the door and unlawfully entered in to the private space. Joaquin Cienfuegos a member of RAC and Copwatch ...

Reformism within Anarchism ????

Inkus2000 — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 10:53:51 GMT

In the anarchist organization Im a member of there seems to be an unhealthy emphasis on participating in pre - existing social movements. - pro choice, wage protests ect

Personally I think acting within the system is a waste of time - The prime function of anarchists is to be forward with our revolutionary ideology and undermine capitalism directly. The single issue campings we participate in and organize

entail no education about our long term goals whatsoever. I feel there are factions ...

Stop the murdering of indigenous of Columbia

Yaotl Macehualli — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 07:07:49 GMT

The Colombian military opened fire against indigenous groups who were claiming their land rights. All the groups wanted was a meeting with Presidente Uribe, but in his place he sent the army, police, helicopters and armed vehicles, opening fire with live ammunition.

The indigenous ...

Religion in anarchy?

chris — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 23:58:16 GMT

I dont know if this has been discussed before or not, but here I go.

Is there room for religion in an anarchy? I mean, religion is clearly not very anarchistic..

God

Prophets

Pope

Bishops

Priests

Regular Folks

(Using the catholic/Christian set up as its the one I know best)

In an anarchy we are all equal, but according to religion God is a supreme being thats better than all of us.

And if we were to start a revolution it would be extremely difficult to get everyone ...

Grassroots Democracy

solpacvoicis — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 08:52:26 GMT

Grassroots is a term simply meaning it occurs at a local level. This is the founding point of all forms of anarchy, but is particularly necessary for Anarchocommunism to survive.

By direct voting occurring at local levels, and community control of the economy, people can have a true say in their community and have full sway over their economy.

Discuss.

Socialism in one country???!!??What???

Killuminati — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 04:00:48 GMT

Could someone explain the idea of "socialism in one country" theory by Stalin and would this be a good idea or another lie that Stalin used to gain more power

Forced To Read Bible In English Class

Rename — Fri, 19 Sep 2008 04:09:08 GMT

This makes me very angry.

Class struggle, racial unification

Cheveyo — Wed, 24 Sep 2008 04:54:03 GMT

For years, acclaimed author and speaker Tim Wise has been electrifying audiences on the college lecture circuit with his deeply personal take on whiteness and white privilege. In this spellbinding lecture, the author of White Like Me: Reflections on Race from a Privileged Son offers a unique, inside-out view of race and racism in Amerika. Expertly overcoming the defensiveness that often surrounds these issues, Wise provides a non-confrontational explanation of white privilege and the damage ...

Why do alot of Anarchists hate Anarcho-Capitalists?

Rename — Sun, 14 Sep 2008 19:33:40 GMT

Your both fighting for Anarchy, just different branches of it.

And in Amerika if Anarchy ever happened each territory would have its own, not everyone would be under same side-division.

Let's get rid of the whole "Your sectarian" buisness right now, because i fully acknowledge my sectarianism.

I know a few anarchists on Youtube that constantely bash Anarcho-capitalists more than Stalinists.

For those who have bands...

30003012345 — Fri, 08 Aug 2008 21:29:47 GMT

For those of you who are in rock bands, punk bands, etc., write more political music!!! Its fun to listen to (if its good), and anarchist music can relate to almost everyone!!!

heres a good example: copy and paste http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bfDBZX0j_0&feature=related&fmt=18 in your URL bar thingy to see slayer's dittohead

Alienation of the working class

Inkus2000 — Sat, 23 Aug 2008 21:00:22 GMT

I think one of the main problems within Anarcho syndicalism is that modern unions have been altogether hijacked by state socialist groups and even worse - social democracy. This follows wide move away from anarchism within the working class - esp in the US. The problem dosn't seem as bad on the European continent so much - where Anarchism is still regraded in much the same way as it has always been.

Anarchy has an uphill battle to fight, in that we need to re-legitimize the movement in the ...

What up, I'm Spinner.

Spinner — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 16:57:45 GMT

I'm Spinner or Jamie, whatever you'd like to call me. I'm 19 years old, and I'm from New Jersey. I am an Anarchist, first and foremost. Specifically of the Libertarian Communist variety, if I must specify. I also partially sympathize to Anarchist Syndicalism and workplace-oriented revolutionary action. I also identify as a Scientific Humanist, Anti-Theist, and Transhumanist. I used to be faintly affiliated with the Antithesis Collective in New York City, but that connection is no more. I plan ...

Economic Crisis: Materialist Perspective

Black_Cross — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 04:10:32 GMT

http://www.marxist.com/video-john-peterson-economic-crisis.htm

Ya, it's the IML, but just ignore the stuff about the government taking over the means of production and distribution; it's mostly economic, and we know the government won't be able to effect the change humanity needs, so it's of no matter.

Revolution

Cheveyo — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 01:36:04 GMT

Anarcho communism is a distinct body of revolutionary social and political ideas. It offers a radical alternative to the statist belief systems which have proved their bankruptcy in the twentieth century.

Marxism, in both its Bolshevik and social democratic varieties, has proved a disastrous failure. Socialism, and the other ideologies based upon capitalism such as fascism and liberal democracy have proved overtly murderous or hypocritically so. Only anarchist communism remains to be tested ...

"Anarchism is chaos"

Cheveyo — Sat, 20 Sep 2008 18:35:44 GMT

"Anarchism is chaos."

--Rename, 3 days ago, YouTube.

For someone who is somewhat active on this forum, I am totally surprised one would say such a thing (even if you disagree with our school of thought). Philosophers that oppose anarchism at least don't spit out propagandist's lies in defense of their opinion.

I have not once seen a true anarchist tell anyone that the use of chaos was justified or even desirable. I can say democratic socialism is chaos -- does it make sense!? ...

Subversion

Cheveyo — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 03:13:23 GMT

Recently, anger at the invasion of public space by advertisers and corporate interests prompted a social movement to subvert corporate advertising, especially the ubiquitous corporate logos that inundate public space. "Subvertising" involves subtly changing posters and advertisements to alter the intended meaning of corporate slogans and logos, usually in an attempt to highlight the company's unethical practices. In this context, the authority figure subverted has ceased to be the state ...

Anarchist perspective of the "clash of civilisations"

Black_Cross — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 03:10:40 GMT

http://www.ainfos.ca/en/ainfos21645.html

Read it, absorb it, love it.

Obamalama Won

chris — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 20:35:19 GMT

So.. Obamalama won.. Any thought about what will happen now? Think he will be a better president than Bush?

Inactivity

chris — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 01:00:10 GMT

Hoi guys! I know Ive been unactive for a while now, but the thing is that I played a concert today and we have been practicing like 6 hours every day for 2 months, so

Over now though. I'll post some pictures and videos soon for your viewing and hearing pleasure.

Now. Since this is the music section, I figured I'll tell you what are songs are about(The two we got lyrics for anyways )

1. Guns Fuel War is about an arms dealer and how his work affects the world.

2. Phants Never Forget(Band's ...

How the rich cause poverty

Killuminati — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 03:25:22 GMT

Mystery: How Wealth Creates Poverty in the World

by Michael Parenti

http://www.commondreams.org/, February 16, 2007

There is a "mystery" we must explain: How is it that as corporate investments and foreign aid and international loans to poor countries have increased dramatically throughout the world over the last half century, so has poverty? The number of people living in poverty is growing at a faster rate than the world's population. What do we make of this?

Over the last ...

hey everyone! im alek

Alek4a — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 06:20:22 GMT

you might know me from worldrepublic or unitedrevleftfront. im really glad to see an all anarcho site

as far as my political beliefs i would call myself a stateless socialist. im ant-authoritarian and i reject all centrelized religon and government.

oh and fuck reform.

im a revolutionary

"Shock Absorber" economics. Short-term 'fix'

Black_Cross — Thu, 30 Oct 2008 18:10:09 GMT

A critique of the economic crises posted by anarkismo.net, "Shock Absorber Politics: Pseudo Solutions To The Financial Crisis" was a short series of discussions within KOPA to analyse the imperialist policies being put forth in order to "fix" this economic depression. They do not go very much in depth into the actual policies of these politicians (since there are so many, with minute differences here and there), but rather address the cause of this depression (whereas the ...

The Audacity of Trotsky

Killuminati — Fri, 24 Oct 2008 05:11:08 GMT

In War Communism and Terrorism published by Trotsky that year he said The unions should discipline the workers and teach them to place the interests of production above their own needs and demands. It is impossible to distinguish between these policies and the labour policies of Stalin.

And I thought he was decent.

Not Latino, Not Hispanic and definitely not Spanish

Cheveyo — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:52:54 GMT

We are Nican Tlaca, the Indigenous People of Canada, U.S., Mexico, and "Central America" -- we are not Latino, Hispanic or Spanish.

We reject all colonial divisions of our continent.

We reject the artificial border divisions of our people.

We reject the Supremacist ideology that claims others are permanently endowed with the right to define who we are as a people.

We include "First Nation" and "Native American" and "South American" all as ...

Bohemian Grove: Alex Jones sneaks in with hidden camera to see occult rituals and possibly a human sacrifice.

changingtheworld — Mon, 27 Oct 2008 03:47:39 GMT

they plan to infiltrate the bohemian grove to find the truth, and the truth is shocking.

second forum invasion

god0fmusic — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 15:41:57 GMT

i have started a forum invasion post a while back and only one person joined it. unfortunately, that forum is also quite inactive.

so im going to go into another forum and post about my political and ethical ideas:

http://www.politicalforum.com/

it's quite a big forum.

i will be going under the name of "god0fmusic", as usual. i have already found an anarchist who is part of this forum, and i see he has many friends who are also anarchists, so it is definately a great ...

anarchist yellow pages

god0fmusic — Sat, 25 Oct 2008 18:18:28 GMT

anarchist yellow pages:

http://ayp.subvert.info/

i have just found this website and it's very useful. im going to search for some groups in my area and see if i can join any.

State capitalism of South Africa??? Interesting article I found

Killuminati — Sun, 19 Oct 2008 18:10:43 GMT

South Africa today

But this is not merely a theoretical discussion. How does this apply to the current situation in South Africa? After the 1994 elections we had a situation where the ANC won the elections and thus formed the new government (though at that time it was a Government of National Unity including other parties), but on the one hand the state structures were not fundamentally transformed, and on the other economic power was still in the hands of the same handful of (white-owned) ...

Zapatista anarcho communist revolution

Cheveyo — Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:41:13 GMT

The Zapatista Army of National Liberation (El Ej�rcito Zapatista de Liberaci�n Nacional) is an anarcho communist army that is based in Mexico, mainly the poorest state in Mexico, Chiapas. In 1994, January 1st, they started their revolution and it has been increasingly successful throughout the years. Today, they are attempting non-violent struggles because the people told them too -- they are truly an army of the people. However, both the people and their army are realizing how unsuccessful that ...

Something you didn't realize

Killuminati — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 02:06:12 GMT

Homeland Security

As neocon columnist Bill Safire points out in today's New York Times, the Homeland Security Act will, among other things, empower an ominous new government agency called the Information Awareness Office (IAO). The mysterious agency, already much-discussed on GNN, would allow:

"Every purchase you make with a credit card, every magazine subscription you buy and medical prescription you fill, every Web site you visit and e-mail you send or receive, every academic ...

Little bit of Capitalism but mostly Corporatism

Killuminati — Thu, 09 Oct 2008 17:41:58 GMT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBVB1Uc0nko&feature=related

beast ron paul is

the Bologna Process

god0fmusic — Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:32:42 GMT

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bologna_process

this plan is going to really fuck with people in Spain (and in all of europe), because there are many people, like me, who will nto be able to pay for the education which will be required. here in Spain where i live, it will affect us so we have to pay a lot mroe money to finish our education completely, and it will take away the state's ability to give us money in order to finish our education. instead, we are going to have to get our money from ...

What would you classify Obama as

Killuminati — Sun, 19 Oct 2008 03:40:18 GMT

Honestly I still can't figure out what on the political spectrum I would classify Obama as he is always shifting personaly I always classified him as a social democrat(the ones in germany not the new ones) we all know how the democrats were used to control the populists in the 19th century...so I know for a fact Obama will win but I don't even know what to call him otehr than a snake lol

the ethics of anarchism

god0fmusic — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 19:30:37 GMT

i have been contemplating the idea of using propaganda to convince people to become anarchists. so i came up with the phrase "strength in diversity" to sum up the main concepts of anarchism into a phrase that you can basically put anywhere you want, from your signature on forums to comments on youtube.

so i contemplated this idea and its ability to become a successful tool. then i contemplated the idea of anarchism being a new kind of culture/spitiruality, which is ample enough to ...

Facism and Communism same thing?

Killuminati — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 23:46:37 GMT

Fascism And Socialism Explained

Have you ever wondered why the Nazis called themselves the "National Socialist Party," and why the Soviets called themselves "Socialist Republics"? In history and political science classes we were told that the Nazis were "fascists" and that the Soviets were "communists." It is not hard to come to the conclusion that people living under fascism and people living under communism seemed to be coming out in the same place....as ...

drugs: everything has its own time

god0fmusic — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 15:32:05 GMT

i have been smoking tobacco lately. i started with hash mixed with tobacco, then decided that wasnt very good, so i decided to smoke tobacco alone. i basically smoke with my friends at school, since they all smoke. there are two kinds of tobacco which go arround here, one of them is lose tobacco, which you use to make a cigarette, and then there are the typical cigarettes. so i tried both, first the lose tobacco, and then the cigarette. so yesterday i sat down to smoke a cigarette after school, ...

Books every revolutionary should read

Killuminati — Sun, 12 Oct 2008 06:48:55 GMT

Doesn't have to be revolutionary can be political or whatever for ex: a book about anarcho communist or democratic socialism

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FORMAT:

TITLE:

AUTHOR:

What's it about:

Additional Information:

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Also if you can get it at a library would be helpful and what section it would be under because not everyone wants to go buy it

I'm looking for good books to pick up from library and I need suggestions I might as well make this where everyone ...

RECREATE 68

Cheveyo — Tue, 23 Sep 2008 01:58:44 GMT

The title does not refer to the organization or the 1968 DNC -- it simply refers to the year, 1968.

"Younger generations soon began to rebel against the conservative norms of the time, as well as disassociate themselves from mainstream liberalism, in particular they turned away from the high levels of materialism which was so common during the era. This created a counter-culture that eventually turned into a social revolution throughout much of the western world. It began in the United ...

Arguements for Capitalism

Killuminati — Tue, 14 Oct 2008 02:31:04 GMT

Argument: Capitalism is evil because bosses make so much more than workers, and treat them badly (exploits them).

First of all, an ancap world would in no way inhibit income models involving cooperatives, self-employed professionals, farmers, merchants, independent enterprises, or "freelance" workers. I honestly don't know what definition definition you're using that says these are somehow prohibited in a capitalist society. In fact, on these boards, Golbez and I (to say nothing ...

Mutualism (Economic)

Killuminati — Thu, 07 Aug 2008 04:56:38 GMT

The "cost principle" or "cost the limit of price"

Mutualists believe that most of the economic problems associated with capitalism come back to a violation of the cost principle, or as Josiah Warren interchangeably called it "Cost the limit of price." It was inspired by the labor theory of value, popularized, though not invented, by Adam Smith in 1776 --Proudhon mentions Smith as an inspiration. The labor theory of value holds that the actual price of a thing ...

MUST SEE VID ON SHOCK EFFECT + CAPITALISM

Killuminati — Sat, 11 Oct 2008 05:12:26 GMT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X43GpFcQyOM

IT'S A MUST SEE VIDEO YOU'LL BE INTERESTED

SOCIALISM CONFUSION!!!!!!

Killuminati — Tue, 09 Sep 2008 05:21:17 GMT

Wow I've been hearing so many good sides about socialism and bad sides about socialism I get confused

Is socialism just a fake government that supposedly people are the power but elites are still in control? but wealth is distributed semi-evenly?but everything is nationalized right? and what types of socialism are there?

ahh confused.

state socialist

Democratic socialism

Fabian Society(reminds me of Obama)

recruiting people

god0fmusic — Sat, 04 Oct 2008 15:07:43 GMT

should we spread the name of the anarchist underground movement arround so people join this forum?

i was thinking about doing something like that, and expanding this forum so we have more focus on the ethics of anarchism, and community. i think that would make people a lot more interested and create integration.

any thoughts?

History of Spanish Anarchism

Inkus2000 — Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:20:59 GMT

In depth documentary about the Anarchist revolution in Catalonia - includes narratives by anarchists who actually lived through the revolution building and sustaining a free society. They explain how the anarchist society functioned. The documentary dispels many modern myths about anarchism and illuminates us as to the nature of free organization - It is necessary for the mainstream to never publicize this sort of historical information. '' Its dangerous '' - to reveal an apparently preferable ...

Wall Street, USA Corpocracy

Cheveyo — Sun, 05 Oct 2008 19:13:10 GMT

Most of the "rightwing, neolibertarian, Alex Jones, conspiracy theorist bandwagon" (you know exactly the kind of people I'm talking about) are calling the bailouts "communism".

It's the opposite of communism, it's a corpocracy -- a society in which the interests of large corporations control economic and political decisions within the state and vice versa.

I see corpacracy as one of the last, disparate stages of the government to sustain the unsustainable "capitalist" ...

The power of private institutions

Inkus2000 — Sat, 27 Sep 2008 20:05:33 GMT

Recently I had a debate over the legitimacy of state regulatory bodies. It was proposed by a social democrat that regulatory bodies within the state institution could be used in order to counteract the concentration of social power. I was of the opinion that it is the powerful private sector that determines and controls the regulatory bodies to begin with - rendering them unreliable at best.

Thoughts ?

It's bad when figures of the law call for the breaking of it

Cheveyo — Wed, 01 Oct 2008 02:32:46 GMT

I generally hate Al Gore with a passion for the illusion of environmentalism he spreads, though I found it interesting that he, a figure of the law, is now calling for 'civil disobedience'.

Former Vice President and Nobel Prize winner, Al Gore, told the audience at the Clinton Global Initiative that the moment had arrived for civil disobedience against new coal plants.

�If you're a young person looking at the future of this planet and looking at what is being done right now, ...

Unwritten Future -- War at the RNC

Cheveyo — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 00:59:52 GMT

A documentary that looks into the events during the Republican National Convention in Saint Paul, MN.

Footage contains excessive use of violent force and questionable tactics used by police toward activists. It also includes interviews with citizens, asking them what they are fighting for.

This documentary should never be sold. The footage contains graphic state terrorism of its own people and some adult language.

The footage used in this documentary was shot mainly by independent, ...

state socialism on the rise?

solpacvoicis — Sun, 28 Sep 2008 17:37:37 GMT

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7640704.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7637458.stm

these articles are both about Ecuador and its voting on a new constitution.

this constitution is being used to break of business and land owning power, or at least, that's the intent.

i want to know what you guys think about it, because i think its always a good thing when a new group of people try to become independent of the u.s. business class, BUT i don't particularly like state ...