I'm not an Anarchist.

OnedayIstoppedbreathing · Subject: Re: I'm not an Anarchist. Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:01 pm

KenCat wrote:

OnedayIstoppedbreathing wrote:

Corrbrias wrote:

Well I eventually realized how wonderful an anarchist society would be, actually I was realizing that at the same time I got pissed off at non-anarchists, but now I believe that an anarchist society would be the best kind of society ever, and I don't want to settle for anything less.

I don't know. I've been having a very hard time seeing how an Anarchhist Society couldn't literally fall in on itself.

There has to be a mutual agreement between EVERYONE in this country in order for it to work, not just with the people who want it. No offense, but it just seems like you guys are hoping for something that'll never happen...like the Christians, waiting for Jesus to comeback, lol. There are too many narrow-minded, one-sided, racist, brainwashed, Republican'ts in this country...I don't ever see it working....maybe when every Republican is dead, or lightens up...but, I'm not so sure either of those will ever happen.

I'd rather see someone say they're an Anarchist than a Republican, though.

Not at all, the notion that Anarchism=chaos is false, it has been tried in the past in certain parts of Africa, South American and mainly Spain in the 30's.

Was Anarchy willingly uniform throughout all inhabitants?? If not, what happened to the people who didn't want Anarchy??

Were not talking about "certain parts" of anything, but an entire country...a mass scale....millions and millions of people, lol.

The way I look at it; everything has to have an order. I recently switched from being an Atheist to being a Pantheist....becos I realised that there IS something out there, governing everything. It's what makes bushes and trees grow, and the speed of light stay constant, and what helps entire Galaxies keep their form....it's "God"....not in the Biblical sense, at all. I believe God is in me, in you, and everything else in the Universe. It's not a "he", or a "she"...I'm not even sure it's an "it".

Atheist's seem to believe that we came out of chaos; how does the Universe govern itself?? It can't.

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killuminati · Subject: Re: I'm not an Anarchist. Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:41 am

OnedayIstoppedbreathing wrote:

KenCat wrote:

OnedayIstoppedbreathing wrote:

Corrbrias wrote:

Well I eventually realized how wonderful an anarchist society would be, actually I was realizing that at the same time I got pissed off at non-anarchists, but now I believe that an anarchist society would be the best kind of society ever, and I don't want to settle for anything less.

I don't know. I've been having a very hard time seeing how an Anarchhist Society couldn't literally fall in on itself.

There has to be a mutual agreement between EVERYONE in this country in order for it to work, not just with the people who want it. No offense, but it just seems like you guys are hoping for something that'll never happen...like the Christians, waiting for Jesus to comeback, lol. There are too many narrow-minded, one-sided, racist, brainwashed, Republican'ts in this country...I don't ever see it working....maybe when every Republican is dead, or lightens up...but, I'm not so sure either of those will ever happen.

I'd rather see someone say they're an Anarchist than a Republican, though.

Not at all, the notion that Anarchism=chaos is false, it has been tried in the past in certain parts of Africa, South American and mainly Spain in the 30's.

Was Anarchy willingly uniform throughout all inhabitants?? If not, what happened to the people who didn't want Anarchy??

Were not talking about "certain parts" of anything, but an entire country...a mass scale....millions and millions of people, lol.

I don't know many people who think the way were going in government is good most people will like the idea of Anarchy the problem is they don't know anything about it and the MEDIA portrays it as negative and pure chaos and no order but it's the exact opposite. All we have to do is start educating people about it to get the movement started.

Once people get educated about it and can see pass the media portrayal then they will see the truth and see what positive aspects can come from Anarchy

only people that won't want this and will fight it is the ELITIST and the other people in high position...
afro

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OnedayIstoppedbreathing · Subject: Re: I'm not an Anarchist. Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:52 am

Killuminati wrote:

OnedayIstoppedbreathing wrote:

KenCat wrote:

OnedayIstoppedbreathing wrote:

Corrbrias wrote:

Well I eventually realized how wonderful an anarchist society would be, actually I was realizing that at the same time I got pissed off at non-anarchists, but now I believe that an anarchist society would be the best kind of society ever, and I don't want to settle for anything less.

I don't know. I've been having a very hard time seeing how an Anarchhist Society couldn't literally fall in on itself.

There has to be a mutual agreement between EVERYONE in this country in order for it to work, not just with the people who want it. No offense, but it just seems like you guys are hoping for something that'll never happen...like the Christians, waiting for Jesus to comeback, lol. There are too many narrow-minded, one-sided, racist, brainwashed, Republican'ts in this country...I don't ever see it working....maybe when every Republican is dead, or lightens up...but, I'm not so sure either of those will ever happen.

I'd rather see someone say they're an Anarchist than a Republican, though.

Not at all, the notion that Anarchism=chaos is false, it has been tried in the past in certain parts of Africa, South American and mainly Spain in the 30's.

Was Anarchy willingly uniform throughout all inhabitants?? If not, what happened to the people who didn't want Anarchy??

Were not talking about "certain parts" of anything, but an entire country...a mass scale....millions and millions of people, lol.

I don't know many people who think the way were going in government is good most people will like the idea of Anarchy the problem is they don't know anything about it and the MEDIA portrays it as negative and pure chaos and no order but it's the exact opposite. All we have to do is start educating people about it to get the movement started.

Once people get educated about it and can see pass the media portrayal then they will see the truth and see what positive aspects can come from Anarchy

only people that won't want this and will fight it is the ELITIST and the other people in high position...
afro

And what do you do to the Elitist and his friends?

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solpacvoicis · Admin Posts: 156 Join date: 2008-07-05

OnedayIstoppedbreathing wrote:

And what do you do to the Elitist and his friends?

exclude them, and if they try to kill us, kill them.

OnedayIstoppedbreathing · Subject: Re: I'm not an Anarchist. Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:08 am

solpacvoicis wrote:

OnedayIstoppedbreathing wrote:

And what do you do to the Elitist and his friends?

exclude them, and if they try to kill us, kill them.

Fair enough, I suppose.

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killuminati · Subject: Re: I'm not an Anarchist. Fri Aug 15, 2008 3:41 am

OnedayIstoppedbreathing wrote:

solpacvoicis wrote:

OnedayIstoppedbreathing wrote:

And what do you do to the Elitist and his friends?

exclude them, and if they try to kill us, kill them.

Fair enough, I suppose.

they'll probably be dead already lol there not going to let us take it without a revolutionary war.

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Cheveyo · Subject: Re: I'm not an Anarchist. Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:53 am

Killuminati wrote:

OnedayIstoppedbreathing wrote:

solpacvoicis wrote:

OnedayIstoppedbreathing wrote:

And what do you do to the Elitist and his friends?

exclude them, and if they try to kill us, kill them.

Fair enough, I suppose.

they'll probably be dead already lol there not going to let us take it without a revolutionary war.

Also a factor.

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OnedayIstoppedbreathing · Subject: Re: I'm not an Anarchist. Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:29 am

Killuminati wrote:

OnedayIstoppedbreathing wrote:

solpacvoicis wrote:

OnedayIstoppedbreathing wrote:

And what do you do to the Elitist and his friends?

exclude them, and if they try to kill us, kill them.

Fair enough, I suppose.

they'll probably be dead already lol there not going to let us take it without a revolutionary war.

See; that's where the chaos comes in. It'd be a never-ending battle.

What're the demographics of people for Government versus people who are against it??? Anybody have some form of an unbiased idea??

Cos if the majority were in favour of Anarchy, this Government wouldn't be still be standing.

I wish something like Anarchy could work (I honestly do, smaller to no Government would be much more efficient), but I've come to the realisation that it won't. Even if the whole world were to explode...some form of Government would still exist....I'm not saying, mind you, I want it that way....but, that's just the way that it is, man.

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killuminati · Subject: Re: I'm not an Anarchist. Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:36 am

OnedayIstoppedbreathing wrote:

Killuminati wrote:

OnedayIstoppedbreathing wrote:

solpacvoicis wrote:

OnedayIstoppedbreathing wrote:

And what do you do to the Elitist and his friends?

exclude them, and if they try to kill us, kill them.

Fair enough, I suppose.

they'll probably be dead already lol there not going to let us take it without a revolutionary war.

See; that's where the chaos comes in. It'd be a never-ending battle.

What're the demographics of people for Government versus people who are against it??? Anybody have some form of an unbiased idea??

Cos if the majority were in favour of Anarchy, this Government wouldn't be still be standing.

I wish something like Anarchy could work (I honestly do, smaller to no Government would be much more efficient), but I've come to the realisation that it won't. Even if the whole world were to explode...some form of Government would still exist....I'm not saying, mind you, I want it that way....but, that's just the way that it is, man.

Doesn't every great political/economic change come via revolution?

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OnedayIstoppedbreathing · Subject: Re: I'm not an Anarchist. Fri Aug 15, 2008 6:59 am

Killuminati wrote:

OnedayIstoppedbreathing wrote:

Killuminati wrote:

OnedayIstoppedbreathing wrote:

solpacvoicis wrote:

OnedayIstoppedbreathing wrote:

And what do you do to the Elitist and his friends?

exclude them, and if they try to kill us, kill them.

Fair enough, I suppose.

they'll probably be dead already lol there not going to let us take it without a revolutionary war.

See; that's where the chaos comes in. It'd be a never-ending battle.

What're the demographics of people for Government versus people who are against it??? Anybody have some form of an unbiased idea??

Cos if the majority were in favour of Anarchy, this Government wouldn't be still be standing.

I wish something like Anarchy could work (I honestly do, smaller to no Government would be much more efficient), but I've come to the realisation that it won't. Even if the whole world were to explode...some form of Government would still exist....I'm not saying, mind you, I want it that way....but, that's just the way that it is, man.

Doesn't every great political/economic change come via revolution?

I'm not sure; do they?

What are some great Political/Economic changes in your eyes?

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killuminati · Subject: Re: I'm not an Anarchist. Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:00 am

OnedayIstoppedbreathing wrote:

Killuminati wrote:

OnedayIstoppedbreathing wrote:

Killuminati wrote:

OnedayIstoppedbreathing wrote:

solpacvoicis wrote:

OnedayIstoppedbreathing wrote:

And what do you do to the Elitist and his friends?

exclude them, and if they try to kill us, kill them.

Fair enough, I suppose.

they'll probably be dead already lol there not going to let us take it without a revolutionary war.

See; that's where the chaos comes in. It'd be a never-ending battle.

What're the demographics of people for Government versus people who are against it??? Anybody have some form of an unbiased idea??

Cos if the majority were in favour of Anarchy, this Government wouldn't be still be standing.

I wish something like Anarchy could work (I honestly do, smaller to no Government would be much more efficient), but I've come to the realisation that it won't. Even if the whole world were to explode...some form of Government would still exist....I'm not saying, mind you, I want it that way....but, that's just the way that it is, man.

Doesn't every great political/economic change come via revolution?

I'm not sure; do they?

What are some great Political/Economic changes in your eyes?

U.S. so called "Democracy' via war with britain could be example but that can be debated as well...

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chris · Posts: 58 Join date: 2008-08-06 Age: 18

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welcome to the forum.

dont worry about the right wings. we are in a bad time in history right now, but good times will come soon.

The night is always darkest right before dawn.

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Black_Cross · Subject: Re: I'm not an Anarchist. Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:15 pm

chris wrote:

The night is always darkest right before dawn.

i don't know how much Batman actually pertains to reality. I think the transition from primitive communism to slave society was much darker than the times now.

I became an anarchist not too long ago, actually. At first, several years ago, i was a Marxist of sorts (but i didn't label myself with any specific ideology because i thought this created more splits than it was worth). The whole time i was a marxist i was somewhat conflicted over the ideology, because i was very libertarian. Time went on and my sense of justice and freedom permeated my conciousness, and then i decided i wasn't authoritarian enough to be a marxist (what i mean by this, is that i believe social injustices come from more than just economic slavery, but heirarchy as well, and anarchy deals with the problem of heirarchy). Since that time, not even a year ago, i've been burried in anarchist literature, refining my ideas and theories. Not very exciting, i know, but that's my story.

Welcome to the forum, by the way.

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solpacvoicis · Admin Posts: 156 Join date: 2008-07-05

@AD, actually, i've heard the concept in music, before the dark knight....so i think its always been some kind of concept in human nature that you have to struggle to succeed, and the most struggle comes right before the victory - in one form or another...

and yeah, actually, what i think is that people will warm up to anarchist ideas, though the folly of the government and the examples of modern day anarchists.....then there is more of a shot at a revolution.