"Anarchism is chaos"

Cheveyo · Subject: Re: "Anarchism is chaos" Wed Oct 01, 2008 8:35 pm

InsurgenteCujo wrote:

KenCat wrote:

InsurgenteCujo wrote:

I don't why we let this reactionist on here.

Well, we ARE anarchists -- we believe in free speech. Although he lies and distorts our views, he doesn't stop us from / speak out against expressing them. I guess that's where one would draw the line. Well, maybe he is stopping us from expressing our views in certain ways.

I don't know, he's also good, consumerist practice. ha

I still say its a bad idea.

Okay.. So we endorse free speech, but oppose lies. Therefore, we oppose him.

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chris · Posts: 58 Join date: 2008-08-06 Age: 19

Well that's a very good point Smile

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Inkus2000 · Admin Posts: 284 Join date: 2008-07-04

He can say what he likes we have no right to stop him -

Cheveyo · Subject: Re: "Anarchism is chaos" Sat Oct 04, 2008 12:38 am

After spending a while on his forum, I got to see who he really was. Borderline McCain/Obama supporter, private school kid about in eighth grade, etc.

Why change if you're living the life, right?.. =/

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killuminati · Subject: Re: "Anarchism is chaos" Sun Oct 05, 2008 10:22 pm

Cheveyo wrote:

After spending a while on his forum, I got to see who he really was. Borderline McCain/Obama supporter, private school kid about in eighth grade, etc.

Why change if you're living the life, right?.. =/

I can see hes not obviously hurting lol mccain/obama suppporter on an anarchist forum never ends well now does it?

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solpacvoicis · Admin Posts: 156 Join date: 2008-07-05

oh, but think of the fun we'll have! lol really, there is a lot of conflicting points on anarchism, that's what makes it great, and i HAVE heard of anarchists who believe in creating chaos....i can't really explain it, because i haven't studied it, but i'm sure i'm not alone in having heard of this. its not crazy, its just a different way of perceiving.

anywho, rename is allowed to say what he pleases, and though we might hope to broaden his horizons a bit, we can't exactly stop him from saying things, and we are currently doing all we can for the intangible entity of the screen name "rename", IMO

Cheveyo · Subject: Re: "Anarchism is chaos" Sat Oct 11, 2008 2:52 pm

solpacvoicis wrote:

oh, but think of the fun we'll have! lol really, there is a lot of conflicting points on anarchism, that's what makes it great, and i HAVE heard of anarchists who believe in creating chaos....i can't really explain it, because i haven't studied it, but i'm sure i'm not alone in having heard of this. its not crazy, its just a different way of perceiving.

anywho, rename is allowed to say what he pleases, and though we might hope to broaden his horizons a bit, we can't exactly stop him from saying things, and we are currently doing all we can for the intangible entity of the screen name "rename", IMO

Omniarchy is chaos -- where is this chaos-driven anarchism you have heard of? Discordianism?! lol

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solpacvoicis · Admin Posts: 156 Join date: 2008-07-05

lol, yeah, discordianism ^_^ that's it

but i'm sure there is more than that. o.o;; there has to be more than them who see chaos as NOT a bad thing, right? oh well.

Rename · Counter-Revolutionary Posts: 171 Join date: 2008-07-30

I must say, i am truely surprised by this. Apparentely you don't know my social life very well, which most likely you shouldn't, but oh well.
So maybe i should inform you alittle better?
-Youtube account, i share this account with, let's see, 1 brother, 1 sister, 3 friends, and 1 girlfriend. Total = 6 political activists.
I am on that account, maybe once, twice, every two weeks. Comment on videos i like, i don't even really watch political videos on youtube because their all shit anymore.
Don't tag me too all of my other members comments, but i will defend myself by saying that i posted a comment BEFORE that saying something about revolution = chaos. I NEVER posted anything saying anarchism = chaos.

Now quite a few of you also said that i avoid arguments.
Well, back to my life, i have a life, i have things to do. Recently in the past weeks i went on vacation, birthdays, parents having serious health issues, my friend died, i totally lost faith in a god, went to a new school, girlfriend(s), not too mention average friends. Does that mean i have time to get on the internet and post comments everyday on 10-15 different websites i go on? NO
I will admit i did forget about this forum, and i wish it would have stayed that way.

You say i am arrogant for leaving and not coming on/avoiding questions, we'll i would have to say the same about you because YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHY I WAS GONE? I would truely like to see one of you with all these issues i've been having and still have time to be active on a political website of a different ideal than my own, i barely had time to mend my own fucking forum.

Cheveyo wrote:

After spending a while on his forum, I got to see who he really was. Borderline McCain/Obama supporter, private school kid about in eighth grade, etc.

Why change if you're living the life, right?.. =/

Looks like you got this wrong, also. Im a semi-Obama supporter. Im not in private school. And im a junior in HIGHSCHOOL. So how about not spreading lies about my life??

With comments like these i have been reading, i doubt i will ever return here, so one less capitalist on your forum.

killuminati · Subject: Re: "Anarchism is chaos" Sun Oct 12, 2008 1:13 am

Rename wrote:

I must say, i am truely surprised by this. Apparentely you don't know my social life very well, which most likely you shouldn't, but oh well.
So maybe i should inform you alittle better?
-Youtube account, i share this account with, let's see, 1 brother, 1 sister, 3 friends, and 1 girlfriend. Total = 6 political activists.
I am on that account, maybe once, twice, every two weeks. Comment on videos i like, i don't even really watch political videos on youtube because their all shit anymore.
Don't tag me too all of my other members comments, but i will defend myself by saying that i posted a comment BEFORE that saying something about revolution = chaos. I NEVER posted anything saying anarchism = chaos.

Now quite a few of you also said that i avoid arguments.
Well, back to my life, i have a life, i have things to do. Recently in the past weeks i went on vacation, birthdays, parents having serious health issues, my friend died, i totally lost faith in a god, went to a new school, girlfriend(s), not too mention average friends. Does that mean i have time to get on the internet and post comments everyday on 10-15 different websites i go on? NO
I will admit i did forget about this forum, and i wish it would have stayed that way.

You say i am arrogant for leaving and not coming on/avoiding questions, we'll i would have to say the same about you because YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHY I WAS GONE? I would truely like to see one of you with all these issues i've been having and still have time to be active on a political website of a different ideal than my own, i barely had time to mend my own fucking forum.

Cheveyo wrote:

After spending a while on his forum, I got to see who he really was. Borderline McCain/Obama supporter, private school kid about in eighth grade, etc.

Why change if you're living the life, right?.. =/

Looks like you got this wrong, also. Im a semi-Obama supporter. Im not in private school. And im a junior in HIGHSCHOOL. So how about not spreading lies about my life??

With comments like these i have been reading, i doubt i will ever return here, so one less capitalist on your forum.

1) HOW THE HELL WOULD WE KNOW YOU HAVE 6 PEOPLE ON YOUR ACCOUNT IF YOU DIDN'T TELL US - Most people don't have more than 1 person using their account let alone 6 so you can't get mad at us for the confusion with all due respect, it is called YOUtube not WEtube...
2) Noone wants you to leave the forums you bring good information and as you can see noone wanted you to be kicked and obviously you weren't kicked
3) We all have lives honestly it takes me 1 minute to check new posts on this forum lol
4) "Don't tag me with my other members comments" HOW WILL WE KNOW WHO SAID WHAT WITH 6 PEOPLE ON ONE ACCOUNT
5) I don't know anyone that said anything negative about you being gone everyone was simply in a state of shock someone from this forum would say "anarchism is chaos" but now we know that your not the person who said it were not worried.

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Rename · Counter-Revolutionary Posts: 171 Join date: 2008-07-30

Isaiah wrote:

1) HOW THE HELL WOULD WE KNOW YOU HAVE 6 PEOPLE ON YOUR ACCOUNT IF YOU DIDN'T TELL US - Most people don't have more than 1 person using their account let alone 6 so you can't get mad at us for the confusion with all due respect, it is called YOUtube not WEtube...
2) Noone wants you to leave the forums you bring good information and as you can see noone wanted you to be kicked and obviously you weren't kicked
3) We all have lives honestly it takes me 1 minute to check new posts on this forum lol
4) "Don't tag me with my other members comments" HOW WILL WE KNOW WHO SAID WHAT WITH 6 PEOPLE ON ONE ACCOUNT
5) I don't know anyone that said anything negative about you being gone everyone was simply in a state of shock someone from this forum would say "anarchism is chaos" but now we know that your not the person who said it were not worried.

1/ Why should i tell you in the first place? You don't need to know everything about me, expecially not such a small detail. Im not mad at "us" i don't even knowyou.
3/ As i said, my mother almost died, i really couldn't give a fuck about forums where all i do is fight with people, expecially when i was in such a wrecked mind set, than after that was over i forgot about this place till kencat appeared on mine.
4/ i understand this. i posted that in ill-regards to the first argument saying that i was saying anarchism is chaos blah blah. it was a harsh guess/assumption, just like when they "assumed" i was in 8th grade, went to a private school, skipped periods of times because i couldn't debate etc, you dont know, so why say it without back-up?? This argument really isn't aimed at you because i dont have a clue who you are.
5/ that still doesn't subdue the fact that you *again* generalized that i left the forum to avoid arguments.
That's why i said i was in surprise, kencat and those were never like that, too just "guess" reasons why things happen. usually they have proof and reason, here they just have incorrect stupid assumptions.

killuminati · Subject: Re: "Anarchism is chaos" Sun Oct 12, 2008 2:52 am

Rename wrote:

Isaiah wrote:

1) HOW THE HELL WOULD WE KNOW YOU HAVE 6 PEOPLE ON YOUR ACCOUNT IF YOU DIDN'T TELL US - Most people don't have more than 1 person using their account let alone 6 so you can't get mad at us for the confusion with all due respect, it is called YOUtube not WEtube...
2) Noone wants you to leave the forums you bring good information and as you can see noone wanted you to be kicked and obviously you weren't kicked
3) We all have lives honestly it takes me 1 minute to check new posts on this forum lol
4) "Don't tag me with my other members comments" HOW WILL WE KNOW WHO SAID WHAT WITH 6 PEOPLE ON ONE ACCOUNT
5) I don't know anyone that said anything negative about you being gone everyone was simply in a state of shock someone from this forum would say "anarchism is chaos" but now we know that your not the person who said it were not worried.

1/ Why should i tell you in the first place? You don't need to know everything about me, expecially not such a small detail. Im not mad at "us" i don't even knowyou.
3/ As i said, my mother almost died, i really couldn't give a fuck about forums where all i do is fight with people, expecially when i was in such a wrecked mind set, than after that was over i forgot about this place till kencat appeared on mine.
4/ i understand this. i posted that in ill-regards to the first argument saying that i was saying anarchism is chaos blah blah. it was a harsh guess/assumption, just like when they "assumed" i was in 8th grade, went to a private school, skipped periods of times because i couldn't debate etc, you dont know, so why say it without back-up?? This argument really isn't aimed at you because i dont have a clue who you are.
5/ that still doesn't subdue the fact that you *again* generalized that i left the forum to avoid arguments.
That's why i said i was in surprise, kencat and those were never like that, too just "guess" reasons why things happen. usually they have proof and reason, here they just have incorrect stupid assumptions.

I didn't generalize you leaving forums because you were running or avoiding arguments - and that's what I mean if you don't tell us there are 6 ppeople on your account were going to ASSUME like any normal person would - that the person that said that comment was YOU but in reality it wasn't you

It's all a matter of confusion but now that we got this settled I hope you continue to post on this forums at your leisurely

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Rename · Counter-Revolutionary Posts: 171 Join date: 2008-07-30

Isaiah wrote:

I didn't generalize you leaving forums because you were running or avoiding arguments - and that's what I mean if you don't tell us there are 6 ppeople on your account were going to ASSUME like any normal person would - that the person that said that comment was YOU but in reality it wasn't you

It's all a matter of confusion but now that we got this settled I hope you continue to post on this forums at your leisurely

Ok, well 1. Im not mad at you 2. i understand the youtube part. What im pissed about is what this topic evolved into, everyone bashing Rename with NO PROOF at all of their statements, and than the rest of them following like sheep because their leader said it so it had to be true (THATS WHAT YOUR SUPPOSE TO BE AGAINST?) Total and absolute contradiction!

Sorry i got upset in the last post at you Isaiah, it was mainly for them, not you, i thought you were trying to justifiy what they did by saying "oh well they didn't know" but than the story would of went something like this -
"You shouldn't be pissed, they didn't know that you were in 8th grade highschool and left the forum to avoid debates, so its not their fault they say lies with no proof and get the rest to follow like sheep, geez"

And what pisses me off, is that they guessed this, but didn't stop to think that i was an anarcho-communist for a year, and a anarcho-syndacalist for nearly 4 months, i would know that anarchism is not chaos, its just not my choice, and i also could have pointed out that revolution is chaos, which makes the first stages of anarchy chaos, but not the end result. But no, instead, point out the exact opposite.

I mean Public Enemy attacked me, but at least she didn't generalize and take assumptions, so for that i have total respect for that person.

solpacvoicis · Admin Posts: 156 Join date: 2008-07-05

SORRY RENAME Sad

stay, i want you to! Smile

Public Enemy · Subject: Re: "Anarchism is chaos" Thu Oct 16, 2008 9:21 am

You know what you call the suppression of opposing ideals? Censorship. BOO.

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