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PostSubject: It's bad when figures of the law call for the breaking of it   Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:32 pm

I generally hate Al Gore with a passion for the illusion of environmentalism he spreads, though I found it interesting that he, a figure of the law, is now calling for 'civil disobedience'.




Former Vice President and Nobel Prize winner, Al Gore, told the audience at the Clinton Global Initiative that the moment had arrived for civil disobedience against new coal plants.

“If you're a young person looking at the future of this planet and looking at what is being done right now, and not done,” Gore said, according to Reuters. “I believe we have reached the stage where civil disobedience is necessary to prevent the construction of new coal plants that do not have carbon capture and sequestration.”

Currently the U.S. has 28 new coal plants under construction.

Gore called the fight against global warming a “rout”, saying “we are losing badly” (no shit).

A recent report from the Department of Energy confirms this. Many researchers expected U.S. carbon output to fall last year—as it had in 2006—but in fact the report shows the opposite with American CO2 emissions reaching to a new record. Meanwhile atmospheric carbon dioxide levels increased 2.2 parts-per-million (ppm) to 383 ppm.

Both presidential candidates, Barack Obama and John McCain, have embraced both “clean coal” (oxy-moron) and nuclear energy as alternative energies to "combat" global warming. Disagreeing(!), Gore compared the belief in “clean coal” to that of “healthy cigarettes”. He stated that no technology existed so far that could render burning coal clean and that such claims were deceits told by major corporations.

"The coal and oil companies have spent, in the United States alone, a half a billion dollars in the first eight months of this year promoting a lie that there is such a thing as clean coal," Gore told the audience.

Some have been critical of Al Gore. Eoin O'Carroll at the Christian Science Monitor argues that if Gore believes the time has come for civil disobedience then he should be leading protests himself. O'Carroll cited other examples of world leaders who used civil disobedience to further their cause, such as Martin Luther King Jr., Mother Jones, and Gandhi.

Already, there has been daring civil disobedience against coal plants. Last October, six Greenpeace activists spent hours climbing to the top of a coal stack in Britain to challenge the government to stop building new plants.

This month, in an announcement that made more news than the initial protest, a jury cleared the protesters from the charge of causing $53,286 in property damage. The Greenpeace activists argued that they were working to prevent future property damage worldwide caused by global warming. The jury apparently agreed.

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PostSubject: Re: It's bad when figures of the law call for the breaking of it   Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:33 pm

that would be interesting if I believed in that carbon dioxide causes global warming bs

but civil disobedience is the way to go(direct action) because protests won't get anything done we need a step above that

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PostSubject: Re: It's bad when figures of the law call for the breaking of it   Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:42 pm

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that would be interesting if I believed in that carbon dioxide causes global warming bs

but civil disobedience is the way to go(direct action) because protests won't get anything done we need a step above that

Protests help (especially to educate), so both should be used.

What do you think global warming is attributed to?

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PostSubject: Re: It's bad when figures of the law call for the breaking of it   Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:06 pm

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Killuminati wrote:
that would be interesting if I believed in that carbon dioxide causes global warming bs

but civil disobedience is the way to go(direct action) because protests won't get anything done we need a step above that

Protests help (especially to educate), so both should be used.

What do you think global warming is attributed to?

http://junkscience.com/Greenhouse/index.html





http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html

Carbon dioxide is needed for plants - more carbon dioxide plants have more oxygen it produces WE NEED OXYGEN

Remember:

Water vapor and carbon dioxide are major greenhouse gases.

Water vapor accounts for about 70% of the greenhouse effect, carbon dioxide somewhere between 4.2% and 8.4%.

Much of the wavelength bands where carbon dioxide is active are either at or near saturation.

Water vapor absorbs infrared over much the same range as carbon dioxide and more besides.

Clouds are not composed of greenhouse gas -- they are mostly water droplets -- but absorb about one-fifth of the longwave radiation emitted by Earth.

Clouds can briefly saturate the atmospheric radiation window (8-13µm) through which some Earth radiation passes directly to space (those hot and sticky overcast nights produce this effect - that is greenhouse but has nothing to do with carbon dioxide).

Greenhouse gases can not obstruct this window although ozone absorbs in a narrow slice at 9.6µm.

Adding more greenhouse gases which absorb in already saturated bandwidths has no net effect.

Adding them in near-saturated bands has little additional effect.

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PostSubject: Re: It's bad when figures of the law call for the breaking of it   Wed Oct 01, 2008 6:09 pm

The most obvious question is

IF CARBON DIOXIDE CAUSES GLOBAL WARMING WHY IS MAR'S ICE CAPS MELTING? I didn't know at mars they have martians in SUV's riding around..

ITS THE SUN

don't forget its the galaxy were going through it has more dust and ect so more friction is caused which causes more heat

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